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Bosnia journal 2023, Part III: Gaza in Bosnia; Sevdalinka; Azra Zornić

2023 Journal index

Journal 1: To Bosnia from Ukraine; Visiting Srebrenica; Memorial Center
Journal 2: Sarajevo: Bistrik; Looking for Kazani
Journal 3: Gaza in Bosnia; Sevdalinka; Azra Zornić
Journal 4Krajina; more on Gaza; Environmental activism

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Responses to Gaza in Bosnia


One of many grassroots expressions about Palestine in Sarajevo, November 2023

As I arrived in Bosnia, the Israeli massacres of people in Gaza had been underway for more than a month. The response of people in Bosnia—at least, those in the Bosniak-controlled areas—was quite different from that of people in Ukraine. In Ukraine on the day after the Hamas attack, you could see Israeli flags displayed on electronic billboards in many places. And people I spoke with were uninformed about the history between the Palestinians and Zionists. More than once I had responses that betrayed complete ignorance about pre-October 7 history.

It was rather the opposite in Bosnia. From nearly the beginning of the Israeli assault, people were demonstrating in protest in Sarajevo, Tuzla, and a couple of other Bosniak-dominated locations. At noon on a mid-November Sunday I was able to attend one of these protests, at the
Baščaršija. The square filled up within about 15 minutes. I've never seen so large a crowd in that space. Happily, there was no speechifying, just a mass of people holding Palestinian flags and protest signs, mostly in English.

One sign read, "You don't have to be Muslim to support Palestine—just human." There was chanting—also mostly in English: "Free Free Palestine," and "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free." There was a good number of Turks and Arabs present, but mostly Bosnians. Many people wore a keffiyeh. After about an hour, the crowd started marching along the pedestrian walkway toward Ferhadija. They filled up that road; it took at least 15 minutes for everyone to evacuate the square.

I asked a couple of local friends how many of these people were Bosniaks protesting out of solidarity with other Muslims, and how much there was non-Bosniak participation. One person, not a Bosniak, stated that there were plenty of non-Muslims in Sarajevo who were involved in the protests, who were involved because they were interested in human rights and they cared about Gaza. I got different opinions from other people.

               
Expressions of solidarity with Gaza in Sarajevo, mid-November 2023

Following the ongoing brutality in Gaza, with the Israelis telling people to leave the north, and then bombing them in the south, I felt in despair—as I still do. I admired a relative who was on the scene in New York City and was arrested with hundreds of other people in a protest at Grand Central Station.

I have had strained relationships with a couple of friends because they lost the plot; they simply did not understand what was going on in Gaza. Some of them called out "genocide" as if it were the Israelis who were under threat, and it was not already happening to the Palestinians in Gaza. They found ways to condemn the greatest victims, rather than the perpetrators. I expect to lose a couple more friends.

This is not, of course, to exonerate Hamas, and I do not. I have never really discerned a strategy on the part of that organization, beyond making attacks that boost their popularity in Gaza and beyond. That has worked this time, according to things I've read.

Trying to understand what Hamas leaders were thinking when they went and killed nearly 1200 Israelis (a majority of whom were civilians, but not all), the only explanation I could come up with was that they expected that the attack would cause so much disruption that a region-wide war could bring about a complete change of power relations in the Middle East, working in favor of the Palestinians. So far, it has not worked out that way. There are expanding skirmishes with Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthi in Yemen, and some attacks in Iraq and Syria, but there is not evidence that the big players—Iran and the US—wish to go at it directly. Of course, there are times that states will back themselves into a war, and that could yet happen. For now, it is the Palestinians who are being massacred and starved to death, with an apparent plan for Israel to resettle an emptied Gaza afterwards.

Some activist friends I spoke with in Bosnia expressed frustration at the demonstrations because, in contrast with the Gaza protests, it is hard to get Bosnians mobilized to pressure their own corrupt, ethno-nationalist regime.

A friend in the Krajina said he thought that the big demonstrations are a "populist" thing, not sincere, among the Bosniaks. He lamented that "if you go and try to change the Bosnian government, you get five people out to a demonstration, but people are ready to go out en masse about something they can't change." I mentioned the more than 4,000 children killed in Gaza (to that date), and he remarked, "And we're trying to have a commemorative monument for 102 children killed here" in the Prijedor area.

A friend in Sarajevo set me up to talk with Al Jazeera Balkans on the subject. After a chat with a reporter, we made the interview on camera on the rooftop of the big BBI commercial center where, under the November sunshine, I made my opinions clear on the subject. The interview was aired for a minute or so the next day, amidst scenes from Gaza of
men sitting huddled in blankets outdoors, and children being taken to hospitals.

A Sarajevo friend asked me the most simple, basic question: "Why can't they just have one state?"


 

Talking about Sevdalinka

On a lighter note, a friend of mine from Sarajevo was driving around when he heard a Sevdalinka song being played on the radio, introduced by someone who was talking about how this song had been performed back in the 1980s by the well-known musicians Behka and Ljuca, but never recorded—until he, the ethnomusicologist Damir Galijašević, "received an old recording of it from Peter Lippman." My friend was driving along and thinking, "That Peter Lippman shows up everywhere."

That recording has a good story. During the 1981 tour of the Radost Folk Ensemble, I had a free evening in Sarajevo and I asked someone where I could go and hear some old-fashioned folk music. The person told me to go to the "kineski restoran," the Chinese restaurant. I made my way over there, up to the second floor, and there were Behka and Ljuca sitting on a bench. Ljuca was playing a Bosnian saz, and Behka was playing tambourine. I recorded the two of them, playing and singing, on my little Walkman cassette player.

After I got home to the US, a couple of years later, I lost track of that cassette for the next forty years. Then my older brother showed up with it and returned it to me. Thus last year I sent it to one Bosnian, who put me in touch with Damir
Galijašević. That's how the recording ended up being played on the radio. It's not that Behka and Ljuca have not been recorded; there are plenty of recordings of them, which you can find on YouTube. But Damir considered my recording, with its low-tech flaws, to be special because he considers that it is the only recording of the pair to have been done under informal circumstances, where they were not tidying up their presentation to satisfy commercial demands.

I met with Damir at a kafana in the center of Sarajevo. We talked about Sevdalinka in the US. The first thing he asked me was about our local nightingale Mary Sherhart, and what she was up to.


With Damir Galiašević

We talked about Himzo Polovina, my favorite male Sevdalinka singer. I had heard him live, in Novi Sad in 1982. He died of a heart attack in 1986 in Montenegro, after a concert. Damir told me that Himzo had been feeling poorly, and went to a doctor. The doctor said he had to lie down immediately, but he went out and gave a performance. Then he felt bad again, and called his wife in Sarajevo to come get him. Then he fell over and died.

I asked if it were true that Himzo had ever been sent to Goli Otok, the penal colony on an island, mostly used for political prisoners. Damir refuted that rumor, but said that Himzo had been banned from performing at the radio for some years in the early 1960s. This happened because the state-controlled radio station asked the performers to remove material that used old-fashioned language or evoked anything related to religion. Himzo refused to do this, so he was politically "unacceptable" for some years. Damir also mentioned that Himzo was a psychiatrist, and that unlike some other Sevdalinka stars, he never stopped working at his day job.

It was only later that I learned that Damir Galijašević is a
highly talented and well-reputed musician in his own right, on the accordion. You can find his music on YouTube.

Azra Zornić

Before I left Sarajevo for the Krajina, I had the pleasure of meeting Azra Zornić. Ms. Zornić is one of several people over the years who have tried and won a civil rights case at the European Court of Human Rights at Strasbourg. In her 2014 case, she filed a complaint because she was not allowed to run for office as a "Bosnian," but only as a member of one of the three main ethnicities or "Other." The ECHR determined that this prohibition was in violation of the European Union Convention on Human Rights.

The history of this and similar Bosnian lawsuits filed with the ECHR goes back 15 years. All of these half-dozen complaints refer to the "Frankensteinish" manner in which the Dayton constitution perpetuates ethno-nationalism at the expense of civic democracy. I have discussed this in detail
here in my blog; in essence, in entity and national elections one votes as a member of one of the three main ethnicities or "Other"—and the same kind of division determines who may be a candidate for the state-level presidency or membership in the House of Peoples (Dom Naroda).

Thus in 2009 the Jewish leader Jakob Finci and the Romani activist Dervo Sejdić
filed a complaint with the ECHR because, given that they were neither Serb, Croat, Bosniak, nor "Other," they were not allowed to run for the above offices. They won their case, but the successive governments of Bosnia-Herzegovina have never done anything to incorporate the 2009 finding, nor several after that, into the electoral system.

In Ms. Zornić's case, she wished to have the right to be a candidate as a "Bosnian," according to the way she identifies herself. This is neither any of the three main ethnicities, nor "Other" (which could be Ukrainian, Albanian, or any other minority ethnicity). "Bosnian" is the remaining, secular, anti-nationalist identity that many people choose since the category of "Yugoslav" was taken away. It represents the ideal for a civic state where all people are equal regardless of ethnicity, and none are aiming to take power away from the other. In the present Dayton-warped system, it is a long shot.

Ms. Zornić
spoke to me about how she wished for Bosnia just to be a country of citizens, with one president acting as a representative of them all. She feels that it is not appropriate for either entity to be designated as the political home of any one ethnicity as favored over another. She worries that the people of Bosnia are not behaving intelligently, and that the original problem was that after Dayton, the leaders did not bother to change the constitution into something that worked democratically for everyone. I asked her how she sees a possible recovery from this situation, and she didn't see it. I suggested grassroots organizing, though the odds for the development of that kind of movement are not so strong.

                                                
From the National Museum: An example of the fine Ottoman-era woodwork in more affluent households, and a traditional kilim

Journal 1: To Bosnia from Ukraine; Visiting Srebrenica; Memorial Center
Journal 2: Sarajevo: Bistrik; Looking for Kazani
Journal 3: Gaza in Bosnia; Sevdalinka; Azra Zornić
Journal 4Krajina; More on Gaza; Environmental Activism

 


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